One Year Retrospective with Windows Home Server

A little over a year ago I was looking for a storage solution for my media center and landed on Windows Home Server. A year in, is it still all I thought it would be?

Mostly.

The Good Bits:

  • Expandability. I've upgraded the RAM in it and added a bunch of drives to it. It just keeps getting bigger, and that's awesome. I don't have to mess with partitioning things or allocating space to this or that. It just works.
  • Computer Backup. The fact it backs up all of the Windows computers on my network is great. It's almost worth the price for that peace of mind alone.
  • Redundancy. The "file duplication" thing it uses to store two copies of a file on two physical spindles is great. I don't worry about a drive going out because I won't lose my important data.
  • Photo Sharing. I can get to my photo library from anywhere - computer, Xbox 360, Playstation 3 - and it just works.
  • Appliance-Like Functionality. Stick it in the corner, attach to network, plug it in, turn it on. It really is that simple and maintenance-free.

The Decent Bits:

  • Music and Video Sharing. While the photo sharing works great, the whole DLNA/UPnP media sharing bit of Windows Home Server is built on Windows Media Connect, which is unacceptably old. To get newer music types working, you need an additional plugin like Asset UPnP or you need to be accessing the music like a file from a network share. Same thing for video sharing (though I've not found a plugin like Asset UPnP for video).
  • Online Backup. Since Windows Home Server is built on Windows Server 2003 but has some differences to it, it's hard to find an online backup service for it that's affordable. Mozy, for example, classifies it as a "server OS" so you have to pay the expensive business pricing for it... even if you're only storing the same stuff on there that you'd normally have on your PC. You end up either paying through the nose or rigging up something to get around the backup restrictions.

The Not-So-Great Bits:

  • File Access Time. Streaming music or pictures works pretty well and I've seen no hiccups there. On the other hand, the original intent for this system was to store and serve my DVD library. I've got somewhere around 800 discs in my collection (considering a TV season might be six discs, give or take). With 100 - 200 movies in there (which is where I was testing things), the speed is reasonable and except for a few network hiccups, you could play a full DVD image over the network to a Windows Media Center. Looked beautiful. You get 6TB of storage on that thing with 800 disc images on there and the file access time tanks. I thought my network was just getting bogged down or there was bandwidth trouble since I was seeing a ton of the little "hangs" where the picture and sound would freeze while watching a movie. I upgraded my network equipment and got no better result. It's totally file access time. As such, I'm going to have to reinvestigate which video format to store my movies in and switch to something a little more network-and-file-access-time-friendly. Unfortunately I think that'll mean giving up some of the features I was hoping to keep (like the menus and "special features" videos).
  • Developer Resources. I'm a developer and I've considered developing a plugin for Windows Home Server (not sure what, but thought it might be interesting) and... there's pretty much nothing out there on this. Not the major use case for people out there, but still - lame.

Knowing all of that, would I still recommend a Windows Home Server? Sure. The good things far outweigh the bad things. The file access time thing leaves me with a little egg on my face as far as my wife is concerned, though. ("So we bought that and it's not working?") Seeing as how the point was to get a functional video library and that's the part that's failing right now... well, I've got some more work to do.

Print | posted @ Monday, October 26, 2009 12:54 PM

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by Mike P. at 10/27/2009 5:18 AM

Please update us on any solution you find file access times issue. Would simply adding more RAM and / or faster CPU do it?
  
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by Sync in need at 10/27/2009 5:21 AM

When I bought my WHS, the ultimate media- and backup-server, I thought I had found the perfect solution with an automatic backup every week + streaming possibilities. I installed it, bought a Squeezebox and TVIX media player and started to upload my media files.
... then I found out that the WHS doesn't sync/backup the media files from my desktop, why??

People rip videos and store photos every week, not directly on a server but on a decent desktop because converting videos etc is something you don't want to do over the network (i.e. editing videos on the desktop when it's stored on the server). Thus I (and a lot of people) have my 1.1TB of videos, photos, music primarily stored on a desktop and then/now backuped to the WHS. But ... if you want to stream stuff from the WHS, you need to put all media files in the shared folders - right?!

Here's the problem:
Today the WHS's shared folders cannot backup/sync the photos etc. that I every week download to my desktop ... WHY!?!?

MS seems to fix this .. but their Synctoy have problems with NAS: "When using a NAS, there is a chance of file corruption"

  
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by Jon at 10/27/2009 6:39 AM

To the original author: you must have something else going on with your WHS and/or your network. I have 5TB of storage in my WHS box, and I have over 100 Blu-ray movies stored on there complete intact with all menus and HD audio tracks and have never experienced any playback or access issues whatsoever. I'm connected on a purely gigabit network, but even on 100Mbit I shouldn't have any problem streaming HD audio/video.
  
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by Travis Illig at 10/27/2009 8:15 AM

@Mike P: I've upgraded the RAM and it doesn't help with file access time. I have not upgraded the CPU, but articles I've read lead me to believe that won't help, either. I'm not sure there is a hardware solution - I believe the issue I'm seeing has to do with the way the files are tracked by the WHS software.

@Jon: I'm running on 100Mbit network and the file access is slow. But like I said, you have 100 movies - I have 800. I think there's an issue with quantity of files and such. I'd be guessing it has to do with the way they lay out file allocation tables. It also may have to do with the hardware involved, how many drives you have attached, etc.
  
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by Travis Illig at 10/27/2009 8:26 AM

@Sync in need: If you got an HP MediaSmart server, their latest has a utility that will automatically suck in all of the music and media from the computers on the network and copy it to the home server. The other alternative is to run a scheduled job using something like AllwaySync.

I, personally, don't store anything on the desktop. I pull pictures on the camera and they go right to the home server without stopping on the local box for more than a couple of minutes. Even iTunes is connected to a mapped network drive on my system so my music is natively on the network.
  
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by Drashna (WGS) at 10/27/2009 10:15 AM

I think i can explain the file access time tanking. It's been commonly reported for this to happen when the drives are 80-90% full or more on NTFS. This is a problem with the file structure itself. It occurs on a lot of systems but not all.

As for storing your movies in another format, I would highly recommend DVDFab, as I use it extensively and convert my DVDs to WMV that way. It can do other formats also. That or Pocket Xvid Converter. Both are great products.
  
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by Travis Illig at 10/27/2009 10:18 AM

@Drashna: I think you're right on the filesystem thing. I think the NTFS + weird WHS bunch-of-drives-in-one-logical-partition thing is adding up to be a little problematic. And you're right - I think my drives are probably close to 75% full.

I use DVDFab to rip from DVD to VIDEO_TS and I'm experimenting with it now for the conversion to... some format I've not yet chosen. MP4/H.264/AAC? WMV/WMA? I'm experimenting with that now. Thanks for the recommend!
  
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by Dave Pcolar at 10/27/2009 8:31 PM

I would love to see AD support and Domain logins. Having the ability to set group policies and push software updates would be great for the more intractable customers at home!
  
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by Andy at 10/28/2009 1:14 AM

There is an online backup product specifically designed for Windows Home Server - CloudBerry Backup I would appreciate if the author of this post check it out.

Thanks
Andy
  
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by Travis Illig at 10/28/2009 7:50 AM

If you go to www.paraesthesia.com/.../...erver-to-mozyhome.aspx you can see more about my backup solution and why I chose it.
  
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by Matt H. at 10/28/2009 2:59 PM

I wonder if the rotational speed of the drives are what is causing your file access issues? You mentioned in your upgrades post that you installed the WD Cavier Green drives which may spin slower that standard 7200 RPM SATA hard drives.
  
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